Jesus and His God

Deuteronomy 32:8,9 is sometimes cited by trinitarians as an Old Testament reference to their triune God philosophy. Their thought apparently is that "Most High" [transliterated from the Masoretic text as ELYON] in verse 8 is supposed to refer to one person of their triune God, and "Jehovah" [transliterated from the Masoretic text] in verse 9 is evidently supposed to refer to another person of their triune God.  Deuteronomy 32:8 - When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, When he separated the children of men, He set the bounds of the peoples According to the number of the children of Israel. Deuteronomy 32:9 - For Jehovah's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance. -- American Standard Version.   Deuteronomy 32:8 - When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. Deuteronomy 32:9 - But [Jehovah*]'s portion is hi...

Zechariah 14:4-5 is sometimes presented as proof that Jesus is Jehovah as related to the doctrine of the trinity. Zechariah 14:3 Then Jehovah will go out and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. Zechariah 14:4 His feet will stand in that day on the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west, making a very great valley. Half of the mountain will move toward the north, and half of it toward the south. Zechariah 14:5 You shall flee by the valley of my mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach to Azel; yes, you shall flee, just like you fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Jehovah my God will come, and all the holy ones with you. — World English , edited to present God's Holy Name as "Jehovah". This speaks, not only of Jehovah as coming, but also the holy ones, the saints, who will come. We find nothing directly about Jesus ...

The discussions here are being moved to individual posts related to scripture(s) involved. God willing, once all has been moved elsewhere, this page will be removed. God willin, all scriptures presented will be included in the " Is Jesus God? " pages with links to related studies. <><><><><><> We will be here addressing the list of Will Daniels found in his book, "Understanding the Trinity". Many trinitarians often offer Daniel's list as supposedly proof of the trinity. This list has been floating around on various blogs and forums on the internet, and has been posted to us in several groups and forums, so we decided to address the list here for reference.  Definitely, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is distinguished from being Jesus in Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Isaiah 61:1; Acts 3:13-21; Hebrews 1:1,2; Revelation 1:1. -- Ronald R. Day, Senior. God's Holy Name is supplied as "Jehovah" as appropriate places r...

It is often claimed that if one does not accept the trinity, that the Bible says that he will die in his sins. Matt Slick claims that Jesus claimed to "God " in John 8:24. Actually, what did Jesus did say to the Jewish religious leaders who opposed him? John 8:21 - Jesus said therefore again to them, "I am going away, and you will seek me, and will die in your sins. Where I go, you can't come." John 8:24 - I said therefore to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am he, you will die in your sins." Jesus was certainly declaring that if they did not accept him as who he claimed to be, they would die in their sins. Who was he claiming to be? Jesus certainly did not say he is God in John 8:24; indeed, the word "God" is not to found anywhere in that verse. Nor does he claim his name to be EHJEH of Exodus 3:14. Jesus certainly was not claiming to be his Father who sent him from above. (John 8:16,19,23) Trinitarians, of ...