Jesus and His God

  John 5:18; 10:33 - The "Cause" to Kill Jesus For this cause therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only brake the sabbath, but also called God his own Father, making himself equal with God. -- John 5:18, American Standard Version . The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. -- John 10:33, American Standard Version . Some time ago one claimed, in a post that no longer exists, that John did not say that it was the Jews who were claiming that Jesus was equal with God, but rather that they only took issue with Jesus calling God his father. This would seem to seek to separate "called God his Father" from "making himself equal to God." It appears to be saying that the Jews objected to Jesus' referring to God as his father, but did not equate this with being equal to God, but that rather it is John himself (not the Jews), who supplies the inform...

One has asked: John 14:23-24 - Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our home with him. [24] He who doesn't love me doesn't keep my words. The word which you hear isn't mine, but the Father's who sent me. WHY WOULD JESUS AND THE FATHER COME TO US AND MAKE THEIR DWELLING WITH A BELIEVER AFTER THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL BE SENT TO BE WITH MANKIND TOO? John 14:23-24 - Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our home with him. [24] He who doesn't love me doesn't keep my words. The word which you hear isn't mine, but the Father's who sent me. In the midst of all the temptations and trials that beset us in our earthly pilgrimage we may recognize the voice of our God, saying, 'Do not be afraid. I am your shield, and your exceeding great reward' (Genesis 15:1), " Don't you be...

Acts 2:22 - "You men of Israel, hear these words. Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God to you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of you, even as you yourselves know, Acts 2:23 - him, being delivered up by the determined counsel and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by the hand of lawless men, crucified and killed; Acts 2:24 - whom God raised up, having freed him from the agony of death, because it was not possible that he should be held by it.  -- World English. Some trinitarians and some others may present Acts 2:22-24 as proof of the trinity, or as proof that Jesus is God Almighty, or possibly as proof of the alleged dual natures of Christ (hypostatic union). As yet, we haven't actually found any explanation as to how the words recorded in Acts 2:22,23 offers any proof that Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, or that God is more than one person, or that Jesus is fully God (Supreme Being) and fully man (human being) at the...

Revelation 4:8 – and the four living creatures, having each one of them six wings, are full of eyes around about and within. They have no rest day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy is [Jehovah] God, the Almighty, who was and who is and who is to come. Isaiah 6:3 – One cried to another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is Jehovah of Hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. These scriptures are sometimes cited as supporting the trinitarian dogma, since each uses the word “holy” three times. This has to be Jehovah, the God of Jesus, referred to in Revelation 4:8, since this One is spoken of as one person in Revelation 5:1 as the One holding the scroll in His right hand. In Revelation 5:7 we find that the Lamb, Jesus, takes the scroll out of the hand of the one sitting on the throne. This shows that the one sitting on the throne, called “the Lord [Jehovah] God, The Almighty, who was and who is and who is to come” in Revelation 4:8 is indeed only one person, the God and Father of Jesus, an...

The following scriptures are presented as an alleged proof that Jesus is Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: Deuteronomy 33:26, Psalm 18:9-10, Psalm 68:4, Psalm 104:3, Isaiah 19:1; Daniel 7:13,14; Matthew 26:64,65‬; Revelation 1:8. (Related scriptures: Matthew 16:27; 24:30; 25:31; Luke 21:27) Obviously, there is nothing in any of these scriptures that in any way identify Jesus as being Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who spoke through the prophets of old. -- Hebrews 1:1,2. Evidently, it is being imagined and assumed that because Jesus is spoken of as coming in a cloud, that this means that Jesus is Jehovah who is spoken of riding the clouds in the Old Testament. This is like saying because the scriptures say that Moses led the children of Israel out of Egypt, this means that Moses is Jehovah who is also said to have led the children of Israel out of Egypt. -- Exodus 3:8; 6:6,26; 7:4; 12:51; Deuteronomy 32:12; Exodus 15:22; Acts 7:36; 13:17. See our study: Ho...

The discussions here are being moved to individual posts related to scripture(s) involved. God willing, once all has been moved elsewhere, this page will be removed. God willin, all scriptures presented will be included in the " Is Jesus God? " pages with links to related studies. <><><><><><> We will be here addressing the list of Will Daniels found in his book, "Understanding the Trinity". Many trinitarians often offer Daniel's list as supposedly proof of the trinity. This list has been floating around on various blogs and forums on the internet, and has been posted to us in several groups and forums, so we decided to address the list here for reference.  Definitely, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is distinguished from being Jesus in Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Isaiah 61:1; Acts 3:13-21; Hebrews 1:1,2; Revelation 1:1. -- Ronald R. Day, Senior. God's Holy Name is supplied as "Jehovah" as appropriate places r...

The Incredulity of Saint Thomas. (2022, December 12). In Wikipedia . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredulity_of_Saint_Thomas_(Caravaggio) John 20:17 legei autee ieesous mee mou haptou oupw gar IS SAYING TO HER JESUS NOT OF ME BE TOUCHING, NOT YET FOR 3004 0846_6 2424 3361 1473_2 0680 0681 3768 1063 anabebeeka pros ton patera poreuou de pros I HAVE ASCENDED TOWARD THE FATHER; BE GOING BUT TOWARD 0305 4314 3588 3962 4198 1161 4314 tous adelphous mou kai eipe autois anabainw THE BROTHERS OF ME AND SAY TO THEM I AM ASCENDING 3588 0080 1473_2 2532 1511_7 0846_93 0305 pros ton patera mou kai patera humwn kai theon TOWARD THE FATHER OF ME AND FATHER OF YOU AND GOD 4314 3588 3962 1473_2 2532 3962 4771_5 2532 2316 mou kai theon humwn OF ME AND GOD OF YOU. 1473_2 2532 2316 4771_5 John 20:28 apekrithee thwmas kai eipen autw ho kurios mou ANSWERED THOMAS AND HE SAID TO HIM THE LORD OF ME 061 2381 2532 1511_7 0846_5 3588 2962 1473_2 kai ho theos mou AND THE GOD OF ME! 2532 3588 2316 1473_2 Th...

 The following has been presented to us: James 2:19 states: "You believe that God is one. You do well. The demons also believe, and shudder." -- World English . Obviously, there is nothing in James 2:19 that says that the demons know that Jesus is God. Thus, the trinitarian (or oneness believer) who uses this verse to claim that the demons know that Jesus is God has to create a lot of assumptions that have to be added to and read into what James said to make it appear to say that demons knew that Jesus is God. Obviously, James by his words recorded in James 2:19 is referring to the same one person he speaks of as "God" in James 1:1,27. We have no scriptural reason to think that James was not referring to the same one person who is identified as the "one God" in 1 Corinthians 8:6; Ephesians 4:6; 1 Timothy 2:5. Indeed, it is the same one person who is the God of the Messiah in Micah 5:4 and who is the God and Father of Jesus as spoken of in Ephesians 1:3; 1 ...

Mark 2:5 - Jesus, seeing their faith, said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven you." Mark 2:6 - But there were some of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,    Mark 2:7 - "Why does this man speak blasphemies like that? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"  Mark 2:8 - Immediately Jesus, perceiving in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, said to them, "Why do you reason these things in your hearts?  Mark 2:9 - Which is easier, to tell the paralytic, 'Your sins are forgiven;' or to say, 'Arise, and take up your bed, and walk?'  Mark 2:10 - But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" -- he said to the paralytic --  Mark 2:11 - "I tell you, arise, take up your mat, and go to your house."  .  Luke 5:20 - Seeing their faith, he said to him, "Man, your sins are forgiven you."  Luke 5:21 - The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, ...

1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we saw, and our hands touched, concerning the Word of life 1 John 1:2 (and the life was revealed, and we have seen, and testify, and declare to you the life, the eternal life, which was with the Father, and was revealed to us). 1 John 3:3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us. Yes, and our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son, Jesus Christ. – World English. That was from beginning, which we have heard, what we have seen to the eyes of us, which we viewed, and the hands of us felt, about the Logos of Life, and the life was manifested, and we have seen and we hearing witness and we are reported back to you the life everlasting which was with the Father and it was manifested to us, — which we have seen and we have heard, we are reporting back also to you, in order that you sharing, you may be having...