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Deuteronomy 32:8,9 - Elyon, Jehovah, and the Trinity

Deuteronomy 32:8,9 is sometimes cited by trinitarians as an Old Testament reference to their triune God philosophy. Their thought apparently is that "Most High" [transliterated from the Masoretic text as ELYON] in verse 8 is supposed to refer to one person of their triune God, and "Jehovah" [transliterated from the Masoretic text] in verse 9 is evidently supposed to refer to another person of their triune God.  Deuteronomy 32:8 - When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, When he separated the children of men, He set the bounds of the peoples According to the number of the children of Israel. Deuteronomy 32:9 - For Jehovah's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance. -- American Standard Version.   Deuteronomy 32:8 - When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. Deuteronomy 32:9 - But [Jehovah*]'s portion is hi...

1x1x1 and the Trinity Doctrine

The image presented is evidently directed to Muslims. This site is not owned by a Muslim, but by a Christian who does not believe in adding the trinity doctrine to the Bible. Nevertheless, many professed Christians have accepted the added-on trinity doctrine, and under the guise of orthodoxy, they claim that the trinity doctrine is the central essential doctrine of Christianity, despite the fact that no such concept is anywhere to be found in the Holy Bible. T Nevertheless, trinitarians have been disclaiming that 1+1+1=1 applies to their added-on trinitarian concept, and would have one believe that the trinity is actually represented as 1x1x1=1. Does 1x1x1-1 actually represent what is claimed for the trinity doctrine? And even if it did, does this mean that the trinity doctrine is true? We first wish to note that while we believe the trinity doctrine is illogical, that is not the basic reason for rejecting that doctrine. The Christian who believes in the Bible should reject that doctri...

A Clearer Examination of Revelation 5:13–14 and the Question of Worship

Some readers interpret these passages as evidence for the Trinity, assuming that the elders are worshipping two persons of a supposed triune God. This interpretation, however, depends on assumptions that are not explicitly stated in the text. Who Are the Elders Worshipping? There is ongoing debate about the identity of the One being worshipped. Many argue that the elders direct their worship toward both the One seated on the throne and the Lamb. Others go further, suggesting that the Lamb is actually the same figure as the One seated on the throne. Yet the text allows for another possibility: the elders may be worshipping only the God of Jesus, as seen in Revelation 7:11. In this reading, their act of falling down is directed toward “Him who sits on the throne”—the one true God, the God of Jesus, as discussed in the study God, Who Was, Is and Is to Come . Does Worship of the Lamb Mean Jesus Is God Almighty? Even if the elders do offer worship to Jesus, this does not require the conclus...

Jesus' Transfiguration and Baptism

It is being claimed that both at the Transfiguration of Jesus on Mount Tabor, and at the Baptism of Jesus in the Jordan, the Holy Spirit appears, and the voice of the Father utters from heaven that Jesus is His beloved Son, in whom He is well-pleased. It is further claimed that these in these scriptures that are explicit in saying that God is three persons, one in essence and undivided. In context, this is being offered as proof that the Bible writers presented God as being three persons. Yet, in reality, in harmony with the Bible as a whole, we find nothing in the scriptural reference to Jesus' transfiguration or his baptism that presents the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob as being three persons. Transfiguration of Jesus "The Transfiguration" by Dore The transfiguration of Jesus is recorded in Matthew 17:1–8, Mark 9:2–8, Luke 9:28–36 and Peter refers to it in 2 Peter 1:16-18. In none of these scriptures, however, do we find the God of Israel is presented as three persons...

2 Corinthians 13:14 - Did Paul Present a Triune God?

2 Corinthians 13:14 -  The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.  -- American Standard Version. The grace (favor and spiritual blessing) of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the presence and fellowship (the communion and sharing together, and participation) in the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen (so be it). -- Amplified Bible. This verse is often cited as proof of the trinity. Does it, in fact, present God as being three persons? We do find in this verse that "Lord Jesus Christ" is mentioned; we also find that "God" is referred in the expression "love of God," and we do find that the Holy Spirit is mentioned. Many of our trinitarian neighbors may claim, "There you have the trinity." According to the " Pulpit Commentary, " this verse "is alone sufficient to prove the doctrine of the Trinity."  And yet, do we find any such thought presented by th...

Matthew 3:16,17 - Was There a Triune God at Jesus' Baptism?

Is the Trinity a Biblical Doctrine?

According to many trinitarians, "the trinity is a Biblical doctrine," and the trinity dogma is presented as allegedly stating what the Bible says. In reality, there is absolutely no concept of a trinity presented anywhere at all in the Bible. The idea has to be added to, and read into, each and every scripture that is presented to allegedly support the added-on dogma. Yes, the trinitarians present an array of scriptures, both from the Hebrew "Old Testament" Scriptures as well as the Christian "New Testament Scriptures to allegedly support their dogma. Upon close examination, however, one has to realize that in each and every scripture that is presented, what the trinitarian relies on is a presupposition that will see "trinity" when the scriptures are read. Closer examination of the scriptures reveal how the trinity has to be added to and read into each and every scripture presented. The truth is that the scriptures can be seen to be totally ...

Jesus as EL, ELOHIM, and THEOS - Part 1 Genesis through Proverbs

Genesis 1:26 - "Let us" and the Trinity - c

Genesis 1:26; Genesis 3:22, Genesis 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8 have been presented as allegedly being proof of the plurality of persons who are claimed to make up the triune God. Regarding Genesis 1:26; Genesis 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, Walter Martin (Kingdom of the Cults, page 82) claims that the "plurality" of these verses are speaking of Trinity. Let us examine these verses to see if this is so. Genesis 1:26 - God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." We find nothing at all in this verse about there being a God consisting of three persons; any such thought has to imagined, assumed, added to, and read into, what “God” said here. Evidently, the unipersonal “God”, in saying “Let us,” is speaking to someone else. By comparing spiritual with spiritual, we conclude ...