Saturday, July 14, 2018

1 Timothy 2:5,6 – There Is One God (Deuteronomy 6:4; Galatians 3:20; Ephesians 4:6; 1 Corinthians 8:6)

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Timothy 2:6 who gave himself as a ransom for all; the testimony in its own times. – World English

Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. -- American Standard Version.

1 Corinthians 8:6 - yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we to him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him. 
-- World English.

Galatians 3:20 - Now a mediator is not between one, but God is one. 
-- World English.

Ephesians 4:6 - one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us all. 
-- World English.

Trinitarians often give the above verses as proof that there is only one true God, but they then claim that this "one God" is three persons. They evidently overlook that 1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 4:6, and 1 Timothy 2:5 directly present this "one God", not as being three persons, but rather as only one person, and that one person is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus. (Ephesians 1:3) 1 Corinthians 8:6 actually excludes Jesus from being the "one God", for Jesus is presented as being the "one Lord" through whom are all. The Father is the "one God" who is the source; the Son is the "one Lord" who is the instrument. The "one Lord" through whom are all is not the "one God" of whom are all, and the "one God" of whom are all is not the "one Lord" through whom are all.

In order to make it appear that this one God is three persons, they usually follow up with something like: "The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16)." Since, according to them, the word GOD is applied to all three, this must mean that all three of these "persons" are the "one God", and thus they assume this to prove their triune God theory. Of course, this disregards the Hebraic usage of the words for GOD and assumes the false dichotomy that GOD must mean either the one true God or else a false god. Additionally, one has to create a lot of assumptions regarding each verse which have to added to, and read into each verse, in order to make the verses appear to harmonize with their triune God doctrine.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Timothy 2:6 who gave himself as a ransom for all; the testimony in its own times.

The scripture at 1 Timothy 2:5 is indeed a very good verse to show that there is only one true God [Supreme Being-- source of all] ; however, if this verse proves there is only one true God (Supreme Being), who is that only one true God proven to be in this verse? Trinitarians evidently fail to notice, or wish their readers not to notice, that Jesus is not included there as the only true God in John 17:5, nor is he included as being the "one God" of whom are all in 1 Corinthians 8:6, but only the God and Father of Jesus (Ephesians 1:3; 1 Peter 1:3) is spoken of in the as the “one God” of whom are all. The same applied to "one God" in 1 Timothy 2:5. The "one God" is not the "mediator," nor is the "mediator" the "one God." Thus, this verse actually proves the only true God to be one person, not three persons, since the “one God” spoken of is only one person, not three persons.  In fact, Jesus is excluded in this verse from the being the “one God”, since Jesus is described as the mediator between the “one God” and man.

Trinitarians also often cite 1 Timothy 2:5 as proof that Jesus is still a man, although the scripture does not say that, but it does say that the man Christ Jesus gave himself a ransom for all. The trinitarian uses the imagined “dual nature” or alleged “hypostatic union” dogma to imagine and see in the verse what is not there. Having discussed this elsewhere, we recommend that one see:


ONE LORD

Some also like to cite several scriptures where the Heavenly Father is referred to as "Lord", such as Matthew 1125; Matthew 21:42; 


Other related studies:

Did Jesus Have to be Both God and Man in Order to be the Mediator?




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Friday, July 13, 2018

1 Thessalonians 5:23 – Is Man A Trinity? (Genesis 1:26,27)

(This study is not yet fully updated)
1 Thessalonians 5:23, along with Genesis 1:26,27, is often presented by trinitarians as an alleged proof of their trinity dogma. Evidently, the thought is that man is presented as a trinity in 1 Thessalonians 5:23 and that since man is God’s image (Genesis 1:26,27), then God also is a trinity.


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YOU COMPLETELY WHOLE, AND WHOLE IN (EVERY) PART OF YOU THE
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SPIRIT AND THE SOUL AND THE BODY BLAMELESSLY IN
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1 Thessalonians 5:23 speaks of the spirit, soul and body of the Christian church as a whole; it is certainly not describing man as a trinity as taught by the trinity doctrine. The trinity doctrine teaches that the Father is wholly, fully God, the Son is wholly, fully God, and the Holy Spirit is wholly, fully God, and that God is without parts. According to the trinity doctrine, God is three separate and distinct persons, but each person is wholly, fully God. Thus, if man is such a trinity, each human being is three separate and distinct persons, each of which are wholly, fully, the human being. We would have to say that human soul is a separate and distinct person of each man, and yet at the same that the human soul is all of what each man is. Additionally, we would have to say that the spirit of a man is another separate and distinct person of each man, and yet the spirit of a man is also fully the man. Furthermore, the same would have to be true of the body; the body of each man would have to be a person separate and distinct from the other two persons, and yet that body would have to be fully the man himself. 

The reality is, however, Paul was not praying that the all the individual fleshly bodies of the believers be presevered until Christ returned.

In Acts 4:32, we read that “The multitude of them that believed were of one heart and one soul,” and in Ephesians 4:4, the Apostle points out that there is one BODY AND ONE SPIRIT. In Philippians 1:27, he prays that Christians may “stand firm in one spirit, with one soul striving for the faith of the gospel.” The true spirit has been preserved in the faithful called-out ones.

Please see our study:



Genesis 1:26,27

God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” God created man in his own image. In God’s image he created him; male and female he created them.

This scripture is often combined with 1 Thessalonians 5:27 as proof that man, being a trinity, is the image of God, and thus, this means that God is a trinity. What is evidently being imagined, assumed and added to what is written in Genesis 1:26,27, is that man’s being made in the image of God means that man is likewise a trinity, as man is alleged to be presented in 1 Thessalonians 5:23. In reality, “God (ELOHIM)” in Genesis 1:26 is presented as being one person who speaks to at least another person.

In what way, then, was man created in the image of God? We know that man is separate from other animals due to his ability to reason, speak languages, etc. We can also reason that man was created in God’s image in that he was endowed with moral qualities like that of his Creator, but with the ability to choose to do what is right, or to do what is wrong. In this sense man was “crowned with the glory of God”, but after disobeying, he became short of the glory of God. (Psalm 8:5; Romans 3:23) However, the scripture itself points to the fact that to man was given a dominion. That is, that just as God rules over all the universe, so he appointed to man a dominion, to have all things on earth put under his feet. (Psalm 8:6-8) At present, due to man’s fallen condition, all things are not now under man’s feet. (Hebrews 2:8) But in the age to come this dominion will again be restored to mankind.

There is nothing in either Genesis 1:26,27 or 1 Thessalonians 5:23 that says that man’s being made in the image of his Creator means that man is a trinity of three person, each separate and distinct from each, but each of which is fully the man. We find nothing about a trinity at all in either Genesis 1:26,27 or 1 Thessalonians 5:23.

See also our study:

Tuesday, July 10, 2018

The Default Reasoning Regarding Jesus and His God


Trinitarians, especially, approach the scriptures with the assumption that all their trinitarian formulations are true, and most often appear to assume that the trinitarian assumptions are the default. They appear to reason that because they can think up many assumptions beyond what is written, and add to those assumptions to what is written, that what they imagine and assume is actually fact, and thus the default reasoning. Indeed, it appears that they do not even consciously realize that they are adding so many assumptions to the scriptures and reading those assumptions into the scriptures.

The "oneness" believers often do similarly, with their claims that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all three one person.

We believe, however, that the Bible itself sets what the default reasoning should be. Let us examine a few scriptures.

Psalms 2:2 - The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel together, Against Jehovah, and against his anointed, saying. -- American Standard Version (ASV).

In Psalm 2:2, the Messiah (Anointed One) is presented, not as being Jehovah, but as the one whom Jehovah anointed. The default reasoning should be that the Messiah is not Jehovah, not to imagine and assume that Jesus is Jehovah.

Of course, the trinitarian will usually make use of his many assumptions by which he would imagine and assume that Jehovah is more than one person, and thus they will claim that Psalm 2:2 refers to one person of Jehovah who anoints another person of Jehovah, etc. The reality is that Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, is not once in the Bible presented as being more than one person.

Psalms 110:1 - A Psalm of David. Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool. -- ASV

Here David speaks of Jesus as being his Lord, and he tells of Jehovah speaking to Jesus, his Lord. "Jehovah" refers to only one person, and David's Lord is not depicted as being Jehovah. Again, the default reasoning is that David's Lord is not Jehovah who speaks to David's Lord.  See our study: The Lord of David

Isaiah 11:1 - And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a branch out of his roots shall bear fruit.
Isaiah 11:2 - And the Spirit of Jehovah shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Jehovah.
Isaiah 11:3 - And his delight shall be in the fear of Jehovah; and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither decide after the hearing of his ears. -- ASV.

Again, we find Jehovah presented as being one person, and the Messiah has the spirit of Jehovah resting upon him and the Messiah rests in the spirit of knowledge of the fear (reverence) of Jehovah. Indeed, it is prophesied that the Messiah will delight in the fear (reverence) of Jehovah. Jehovah is presented as being only one person, and the Messiah is distinguished from being Jehovah throughout. Again, the default reasoning is that the Messiah is not Jehovah.

Isaiah 61:1 - The Spirit of the Lord Jehovah is upon me; because Jehovah hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Isaiah 61:2 - to proclaim the year of Jehovah's favor, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn. -- ASV.

Here Isaiah prophetically quotes the Messiah. Rather than claiming to be Jehovah, the Messiah says, "The Spirit of the Lord Jehovah is upon me". Rather than claiming to be Jehovah, the Messiah says, "Jehovah hath anointed me". Rather than claiming to be Jehovah, the Messiah states concerning Jehovah, "He hath sent me". Rather than claiming to be the God of Israel, the Messiah refers to Jehovah as "our God [ELOHIM]", thus showing that he recognized himself as having Jehovah as his God. The default reasoning is not to imagine, assume, add to, and read into the scripture that Jesus is Jehovah, the God of Israel, but rather that Jesus is not Jehovah who anointed and sent the Messiah. 

And Micah prophesies concerning the Messiah:

Micah 5:4 - And he shall stand, and shall feed his flock in the strength of Jehovah, in the majesty of the name of Jehovah his God: and they shall abide; for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth. -- ASV.

Here the Messiah is definitely shown not to be Jehovah, but rather Jehovah is depicted as being the God (ELOHIM) of the Messiah, in whose strength the Messiah stands and feeds his flock (the flock that Jehovah gives to him -- Ezekiel 34:23,24; 37:24; John 10:29; 17:2,9). Micah 5:4 is in harmony with Ephesians 1:3; 1 Peter 1:3 and many other scriptures that show that Jesus' Father is Jesus' God. Again, the default reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, his God, in whose strength he stands and feeds the flock. -- See our study: Jesus Has a God

Of the Messiah Moses stated:

Deuteronomy 18:15 - Jehovah thy God will raise up unto thee a prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
Deuteronomy 18:17 - And Jehovah said unto me, They have well said that which they have spoken.
Deuteronomy 18:18 - I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deuteronomy 18:19 - And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. -- ASV.

Peter refers to this as recorded in Acts 3:13-26. Rather than presenting Jesus as being Jehovah, Peter presents God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as being only one person, and he presents Jesus as being the prophet whom the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob raised up. Peter thus actually distinguishes Jesus from Jehovah throughout. The default reasoning is not to create many assumptions that have to be added to the Bible so as to claim that Jesus is Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but rather that Jesus is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who raised Jesus to be His prophet.

The fact is that Jehovah's Anointed One is nowhere presented as being his God. Any such idea has to be formulated beyond what is written, added to what is written and read into what is written.

Thus, the default scriptural reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the Supreme Being who sent Jesus; the default reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, since Jesus speaks the words given to him from Jehovah the only true Supreme Being. -- Exodus 3:13,14; Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Isaiah 61:1; John 3:34; 5:19; 6:29; 7:16,28; 8:26,28,42; 10:36; 12:44-50; 14:10,24; 17:1,3,8; Acts 3:13-26; 1 Corinthians 8:6; Galatians 4:4; Hebrews 1:1,2; 1 John 4:9,10.

The default scriptural reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, since it was Jehovah, God and Father of Jesus (Ephesians 1:3), who is the Only one in the universe who is the source of all (1 Corinthians 8:6), Jehovah is He who anointed and sent Jesus (Isaiah 61:1; John 17:1,3), prepared a body of flesh for Jesus (Hebrews 10:5), and made Jesus a little lower than the angels so that Jesus could offer that body of flesh with its blood to Jehovah his God for our sins.  -- Matthew 26:26-28; Luke 22:19; Romans 3:25; Colossians 1:14; Ephesians 5:2; Hebrews 2:9; 9:14; 10:10; 1 Peter 2:24; 3:18; 1 John 1:7; Revelation 1:5.

The default scriptural reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, who who made the covenant with Abraham and the seed of Abraham -- which seed is Christ (Galatians 3:14,16; Luke 22:29), through whom the Father -- Jehovah -- will bless all the nations. -- Genesis 22:18.

The default reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, since it was Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who raised Jesus up as His prophet who is like Moses. -- Exodus 3:14,15; Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Acts 3:13-26.

The default reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, since Jesus was sent by Jehovah, speaks the words of Jehovah as his God and Father, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Exodus 3:14,15) who raised and glorified His Son. -- Deuteronomy 18:15-22; Matthew 22:32; 23:39; Mark 11:9,10; 12:26; Luke 13:35; 20:37; John 3:2,17,32-35; 4:34; 5:19,30,36,43; 6:57; 7:16,28; 8:26,28,38; 10:25; 12:49,50; 14:10; 15:15; 17:8,26; 20:17; Acts 2:22,34-36; 3:13-26; 5:30; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 8:6; 11:31; Colossians 1:3,15; 2:9-12; Hebrews 1:1-3; Revelation 1:1.

The default reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, since Jesus receives his power and authority from, Jehovah, his God and Father. -- Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Psalm 2:6-8; 45:7; 110:1,2; Isaiah 9:6,7; 11:2; 42:1; 61:1-3; Jeremiah 23:5; Ezekiel 34:23,24; 37:24; Daniel 7:13,14; Micah 5:4; Matthew 12:28; 28:18; Luke 1:32; 4:14,18; 5:17; John 3:34; 5:19,27,30; 10:18,36-38; Acts 2:22,36; 3:13-26; 10:38; Romans 1:1-4; 1 Corinthians 15:27; 2 Corinthians 13:4; Colossians 1:15,16; 2:10; Ephesians 1:3,17-23; Philippians 2:9-11; Hebrews 1:2,4,6,9; 1 Peter 3:22.

Additionally, we reason that Jesus is not Jehovah, since, the only true God, the God and Father of Jesus, never is "given" power at all; THE GOD AND FATHER OF JESUS IS POWER INNATE, the source of all. (1 Corinthians 8:6) Jehovah, being the source of all might, power, does give to Jesus power, but not the power of being the source of all power, since it is obvious in that all that is given from the only true Supreme Being, that of being the only true Supreme Being is exempt from being given to anyone. (John 17:1,3; Ephesians 1:3,17-23; 1 Corinthians 15:27) All is still "of" Jehovah, the source of all, "through" the one whom only true Supreme Being has made -- appointed -- as "Lord" over the church and the world; Jesus, the one appointed, only has power "through the strength of Jehovah", "his God". -- Psalm 2:6; Isaiah 9:7; 11:2; 61:1-3; Ezekiel 34:23,24; 37:24; Jeremiah 23:5; Micah 5:4; Matthew 28:18; Luke 1:32,33; Acts 2:36; 5:31; 1 Corinthians 8:6; Ephesians 1:3,17-23; Philippians 2:9-11.

The default reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, since it is Jehovah who is designated as being "Most High", and Jesus is designated as being "son of the Most High." (Genesis 14:22; Psalm 7:17; 83:18; 92:1; Luke 1:32; John 13:16) Jesus is never identified in the Bible as being the Most High.

The default reasoning is that Jesus is not Jehovah, since throughout the entire Bible, Jehovah is ALWAYS presented as being one person, and He is ALWAYS distinguished from being the Messiah, whom He anointed. Not one scripture presents Jehovah, God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as being more than one person. Not one scripture identifies Jesus as being the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, despite however many scriptures one may think beyond what is written in order to "see" such a thought in the scriptures. The onus is not upon one accepting this default to disprove all the claims made by others that would claim that Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is only for such to present what the scriptures do say, and what they do not say, and show the harmony of the scriptures without adding all the assumptions needed to support the idea that Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

See also our study: Jesus is not Jehovah.

See also: Links to our Studies Related the Ransom and the Trinity.

Thursday, July 5, 2018

1 John 3:16 - Did God Almighty Lay Down His Life For Us?


1 John 3:16 - By this we know love, because he laid down his life for us. We ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. -- World English Bible version.

Many, reading the King James Version of the above scripture, have claimed this verse says that God himself laid down his life for us. No, it was not God who laid down his life for us. The KJV  translators added the words "of God" to the verse. Most translations do not add the words "of God" to the verse:
http://biblehub.com/text/1_john/3-16.htm

Albert Barnes stated regarding this:
The words “of God” are not in the original, and should not have been introduced into the translation, though they are found in the Latin Vulgate, and in the Genevan versions, and in one manuscript. They would naturally convey the idea that “God” laid down his life for us; or that God himself, in his divine nature, suffered. But this idea is not expressed in this passage as it is in the original, and of course no argument can be derived from it either to prove that Christ is God, or that the divine nature is capable of suffering. The original is much more expressive and emphatic than it is with this addition: “By this we know love;” that is, we know what true love is; we see a most affecting and striking illustration of its nature. “Love itself” - its real nature, its power, its sacrifices, its influences - was seen in its highest form, when the Son of God gave himself to die on a cross. For an illustration of the sentiment, see the notes at John 3:16; John 15:13. -- Barnes, Albert. "Commentary on 1 John 3". "Barnes' Notes on the Whole Bible". https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/bnb/1-john-3.html. 1870.
Some claim that the only way to pay for the sin of all mankind would be for God Himself to die for our sins. No scripture presents the idea that in order for God's justice to be appeased through propitiation, the death of God Himself would required. The scriptures reveal that all that is needed to appease God's justice is the offsetting price (anti-lutron) of a sinless man who would give his fleshly body with its blood in sacrifice to God on man's behalf. It was the man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself in sacrifice to God for our sins. -- Matthew 26:26-28; John 6:51; 8:23; Luke 22:17-19; Romans 3:25; 5:12-19; 1 Corinthians 11:24; 15:21,22; Ephesians 5:2; 1 Timothy 2:5,6; Hebrews 2:9; 10:10; 1 Peter 2:24; 3:18; 1 John 1:7; 2:2; 4:9,10.

Some note that Scrivener's Textus Receptus Text have the Greek equivalent of "of God." Scrivener's text was created in the latter 1800s. Evidently, being a trinitarian, he deemed that "of God" should be added.

Nevertheless, even as 1 John 3:16 reads in Scrivener's Textus Receptus of 1894, it should not be understood as meaning that God gave Himself as an offering to Himself for sins, otherwise, since the condemnation would have been eternal except that that it be offset, this would mean that God is now eternally dead.

The reality is, however, that it was not God, but the man, Christ Jesus, who had, while in the days of his flesh (Hebrews 5:7), the glory that is a little lower than the angels (Hebrews 2:9), being equivalent to Adam before Adam sinned, who did not sin as did Adam, and gave himself to God in sacrifice for Adam and all who are dying in Adam (1 Corinthians 15:21,22; Ephesians 5:2; 1 Timothy 2:5,6; Hebrews 9:14,28; 10:10,12), and Jesus is now, as a man having the glory that is a little lower than angels, eternally dead. The wages of sin that came upon Adam would have been eternal had not another taken upon himself the eternal penalty of sin, thus releasing Adam and all of Adam's descendants from that penalty. -- Romans 5:12-19; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22; 1 Timothy 2:5,6.

1 John 4:9-10 -  In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. [10]  Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

"God" above refers to only one person who is not Jesus, and that one person sent His Son -- Jesus. The default reasoning is therefore that the one sent is not the one who did the sending, that is, Jesus is not "God" who sent him.

Even so, God's love is seen in that He sent His son to die for our sins.  -- John 3:16,17; 1 John 4:9.10.

God's justice was emphasized during the time before Christ. His justice demanded the death penalty upon all of Adam's descendants due to Adam's sin. God's love combined with His wisdom, however, saw to it that all were condemned in the one man, so that only one sinless man would be needed as a propitiation (appeasing) of God's justice. This is what Paul wrote about in Romans 5:12-19; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22; 1 Timothy 2:5,6.


Some links to some of our related studies, see: The Ransom and Trinity