Jesus and His God

Hebrews 13:8 -- Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. — World English. Hebrews 13:8 is often cited as proof of the deity of Christ; by deity the thought is meant to say that Christ is the Most High Jehovah (some prefer Yahweh) Himself. We believe that Jesus is deity - mighty - but we do not believe that Jesus' deity means that Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Obviously, since there is nothing in the verse that says that Jesus is Jehovah, what is expected is that one should read such a thought into the verse. The question was asked concerning Hebrews 13:8, “How can Jesus be created, since he was the same yesterday?” Additionally, Hebrews 13:8 is often quoted as proof that Jesus has what they claim is an immutable nature of God, possessing a nature (by which they mean the plan of existence as being God Almighty) which never changes. Is Hebrews 13:8 talking about an unchangeable “nature”, as that word is defined by trinitarians and many others? H...

Mark 2:5 - Jesus, seeing their faith, said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven you." Mark 2:6 - But there were some of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,    Mark 2:7 - "Why does this man speak blasphemies like that? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"  Mark 2:8 - Immediately Jesus, perceiving in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, said to them, "Why do you reason these things in your hearts?  Mark 2:9 - Which is easier, to tell the paralytic, 'Your sins are forgiven;' or to say, 'Arise, and take up your bed, and walk?'  Mark 2:10 - But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" -- he said to the paralytic --  Mark 2:11 - "I tell you, arise, take up your mat, and go to your house."  .  Luke 5:20 - Seeing their faith, he said to him, "Man, your sins are forgiven you."  Luke 5:21 - The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, ...

Genesis 17:1 - And when Abram was ninety nine years old, Jehovah appeared to Abram and said to him, I am the Almighty God! Walk before me and be perfect; -- Green's Literal. Many claim that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament who appeared to Abraham, and thus that in Genesis 17:1, it was Jesus as the second person of the alleged Trinity who appeared to Abraham. In Genesis 17:1, it is obviously the one person who is "God" in Hebrews 1:1 who is appeared to his prophet Abraham.  In Genesis 17:2, Jehovah promises to make a covenant with Abraham. Verse 7 shows that this covenant is made not only with Abraham, but also the "seed" of Abraham. The final application of this is to "Christ", the only descendant of Abraham who actually fully kept the Law Covenant. Jesus proved himself to be that true "seed" of Abraham, as the apostle Paul writes: Galatians 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He doesn't say, ...

Acts 9:5 - He said, "Who are you, Lord?" The Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. Acts 26:14 We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ Acts 26:15 “Then I asked, ‘Who are you, Lord?’ ” ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the Lord replied. Acts 26:16 ‘Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen of me and what I will show you. Acts 26:17 I will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them Acts 26:18 to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.'”– World English Acts 26:14-18 is sometimes cited as proof that Jesus is Jehovah, most often to support the trinity or ...

Psalm 138:1 I will give you thanks with my whole heart. Before the gods, I will sing praises to you. Psalm 138:2 I will bow down toward your holy temple, And give thanks to your Name for your lovingkindness and for your truth; For you have exalted your Name and your Word above all. Psalm 138:3 In the day that I called, you answered me. You encouraged me with strength in my soul. Psalm 138:4 All the kings of the earth will give you thanks, Yahweh, For they have heard the words of your mouth. Psalm 138:5 Yes, they will sing of the ways of Yahweh; For great is Yahweh's glory. Psalm 138:6 For though Yahweh is high, yet he looks after the lowly; But the proud, he knows from afar. Psalm 138:7 Though I walk in the midst of trouble, you will revive me. You will stretch forth your hand against the wrath of my enemies. Your right hand will save me. Psalm 138:8 Yahweh will fulfill that which concerns me; Your lovingkindness, Yahweh, endures forever. Don't forsake the works of...

Some who do not believe that Jesus existed before his birth on earth have claimed that Jesus is not the Logos, but rather that Jesus was born of the Logos. In some vague manner, the usage of "born" in John 1:12 is evidently thought to support the idea that the Logos gave birth to Jesus. Does John 1:13,14 mean that the man Jesus was born “of the Logos” of verse 1? John 1:12 But as many as received him [The Logos of verse 1], to them he [the Logos of verse 1] gave the right to become God’s children [Psalm 82:7; John 10:34,35], to those who believe in his name [the name of the Logos of verse 1]: John 1:13 who [those who believe in the Logos of verse 1] were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. [by means of God’s Holy Spirit] John 1:14 The Word [the Logos of verse 1] became flesh, and [the Logos of verse 1] lived among us. We saw his glory [the terrestrial glory (1 Corinthians 15:39-41) of the Logos of verse 1 in the flesh], s...