Jesus as God's Firstborn

Jesus as God's Firstborn



Colossians 1:15 - Did Jesus Have a Beginning?

Colossians 1:15 – Firstborn Of The New Creation?

Colossians 1:15, Revelation 3:14, and Jesus' Beginning

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  1. "First born of creation" cannot mean that Jesus was created because you don't read "first created of creation". It's simple grammar. If "first born of creation" means that Jesus was created, that also implies that all the creation was also born, because if you say "my mother is Jane" you can also say "Jane is my mother". If either of those sentences sounds funny, then something is definitely wrong as it is in "Jesus is firstborn of creation"

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    1. The fact that the scripture does not read "first created of creation" is irrelevant, and does not address anything presented in the studies. All living creation is begotten -- brought forth -- by God. We do not believe that the scripture is wrong in designating Jesus as the firstborn of every creature. The usage in the Greek is partitive genitive, in harmony with the fact that throughout the scriptures, the firstborn of any group is always a member of the group. Additionally, the firstborn is never one who was not brought forth into being a member of the group of which he is the firstborn. Thus, the conclusion is that Jesus is indeed the first living creature to be brought forth into being as a member of "every creature."

      We would suggest that one take time to actually study what is given in the studies.

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    2. When a trinitarian says that the partitive genitive in Colossians is an assumption and that it is a Genitive subordination. How do you refute that?

      Many scholars are in favor of the comparative genitive view. Dr. Grillmeier writes concerning the passage saying: "It is used to describe the preeminent position of Christ in the whole world, therefore prōtotokos should not be read as a temporal definition"

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    3. The default is that it is partitive. Going against that default in Colossians 1:15 has to be done because of the preconceived idea that Jesus is God Almighty and thus had no beginning.
      https://jesusnotyhwh.blogspot.com/2016/12/col1-15.html

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