However, we believe that the correct reasoning related to any angel of Jehovah is that the angel often speaks and acts for Jehovah, and thus is often referred to and addressed as Jehovah. There is definitely no reason to create all many assumptions that trinitarians present so as to have it appear to be two persons of Jehovah: Jehovah the Father who sent Jehovah the Son as the messenger of Jehovah the Father. It is true that certain scriptures seem to imply that Jehovah was speaking directly to humans, but a comparison of scriptures shows that Jehovah was actually speaking through or by means of his angels. -- Exodus 3:2-4 [see Acts 7:30,35; Galatians 3:19]; Genesis 16:7-11,13; 22:1,11,12,15-18.
If we need to reach a conclusion, we do have to do some reasoning in reference to the scriptures that speak of the "angel of Jehovah", for the Bible gives no direct answer to this, except the statements in Acts 7:30,35 and Galatians 3:19. Acts 7:30,35 does not record Stephen as saying that the Lord Jesus spoke to Moses. Trinitarians assume that Jehovah was an angel (messenger) and yet that the angel was the angel -- messenger "of" Jehovah, sent by Jehovah. They would imagine and assume that Jehovah is more than one person and therefore the one person of Jehovah sent another person of Jehovah as a messenger of the first person of Jehovah, etc. Therefore they view the appearances of the angel of Jehovah as so-called theophanies, not just in the sense of a divine being making appearances, but in the sense of the Supreme Being allegedly appearing as men. They seem to see no inconsistency in this whatsoever. The assumptions are made to comply with their added-on trinitarian dogma so to have it appears that Jehovah is the angel sent by Jehovah, claiming that Jehovah as the Son was sent by Jehovah as the Father. Sadly, they do not seem to realize that this concept is no where presented in the Bible, and they have to create several assumptions outside of what is written in order to "see" the concept in the scriptures.
There are trinitarians that claim that there is only one angel of Jehovah, or as many often prefer, "angel of the Lord", whom they claim is the Son of God. We do not actually know that there is only one angel of Jehovah, as both the Hebrew and the Greek are often indefinite, so that it could be rendered "an angel of Jehovah". In Luke 1:11,19,26 an angel of Jehovah is identified as Gabriel. If there is only one "angel of Jehovah", then the angel is thus identified as Gabriel, not Jesus.
Although we do leave open the possibility that Jesus could have made appearances in the OT as an angel of Jehovah, the only angel actually identified by name as an angel of Jehovah is Gabriel. (Luke 1:11,19) Nevertheless, if Jesus did appear as one of Jehovah's angels, such would still not mean that that Jesus is Jehovah, or that Jesus is one three persons all of whom are Jehovah, etc. However, we are not given any hint in the scriptures that any of the scriptures that refer to an "angel of Jehovah" has any reference to Jesus in his pre-human existence.
We have mentioned Galatians 3:19. In this scripture, the apostle Paul speaks of "angels" [plural] used in setting up of the law. "Why, then, the law? on account of the transgressions it was added, till the seed might come to which the promise hath been made, having been set in order through messengers [angels] in the hand of a mediator." (New American Standard) The word translated "ordain" (Strong's 1299) in the KJV here means: "to arrange, appoint, ordain, prescribe, give order." The mediator referred to is Moses, who thus received the law from God through the angels, who set these laws in order to Moses so that he could write them down. Paul, however, does not identify any of the angels referred to as being Jesus.
We conclude that there were "angels" that spoke for and represented the Word of Jehovah, and thus quoted Jehovah in the first person as they spoke the words of Jehovah. Likewise, they were on occasion responded to by the term "Jehovah", since Jehovah was speaking through them.
Jesus never made any claims to be Jehovah. He claimed Jehovah as his God and Father, the one who sent him, anointed him, and gave him his authority. The holy spirit reveals through the scriptures that Jehovah (Yahweh) is the only true God, the God and Father of the Lord Jesus. Jehovah (Yahweh) is the God and Father of the Lord Jesus. Jesus has one who is the Supreme Being over him; Jesus is not his Supreme Being whom he worships, prays to, and who sent him, and whose will he carried out in willful obedience. -- Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew 4:4 (Deuteronomy 8:3; Luke 4:4); Matthew 4:7 (Deuteronomy 6:16); Matthew 4:10 (Exodus 20:3-5; 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13,14; 10:20; Luke 4:8); Matthew 22:29-40; Matthew 26:42; Matthew 27:46; Mark 10:6 (Genesis 1:27; Genesis 2:7,20-23); Mark 14:36; 15:34; Luke 22:42; John 4:3; 5:30; 6:38; 17:1,3; 20:17; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 11:31; Ephesians 1:3,17; Hebrews 1:9; 10:7; 1 Peter 1:3; Revelation 2:7; 3:2,12.
The holy spirit reveals through the scriptures that Jesus was sent by Jehovah, speaks for Jehovah, represents Jehovah. Jesus is not Jehovah whom he represents and speaks for. -- Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew 23:39; Mark 11:9,10; Luke 13:35; John 3:2,17,32-35; 4:34; 5:19,30,36,43; 6:57; 7:16,28; 8:26,28,38; 10:25; 12:49,50; 14:10; 15:15; 17:8,26; 20:17; Acts 2:22,34-36; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 8:6; 11:31; Colossians 1:3,15; 2:9-12; Hebrews 1:1-3; Revelation 1:1.
With the above in mind, let us examine the scriptures where it is claimed that Jesus appeared as as the angel of Jehovah, and as supposedly as "Jehovah", in the Old Testament.
Genesis 16:7-14
The angel of [Jehovah] found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur. 8 He said, "Hagar, Sarai's handmaid, where did you come from? Where are you going?" She said, "I am fleeing from the face of my mistress Sarai." 9 The angel of [Jehovah] said to her, "Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hands." 10 The angel of Yahweh said to her, "I will greatly multiply your seed, that they will not be numbered for multitude." 11 The angel of [Jehovah] said to her, "Behold, you are with child, and will bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, because {Jehovah] has heard your affliction. 12 He will be like a wild donkey among men. His hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him. He will live opposite all of his brothers." 13 She called the name of [Jehovah] who spoke to her, "You are a God who sees," for she said, "Have I even stayed alive after seeing him?" 14 Therefore the well was called Beer-lahai-roi. Behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered. -- World English, "Jehovah" is rendered as "Yahweh" in this translation, but we have altered it to present the Holy Name as "Jehovah".The first time that the expression, "angel of Jehovah", appears in the Bible is in Genesis 16:7. Indeed, it is the first mention of an "angel" at all in the Bible. In verse 7, the word for "angel" in the Hebrew is indefinite; most translations, however, render with the definite article "the", possibly due to trinitarian bias that would like to make it appear that there is only one "angel of Jehovah" and that Jesus is that angel. Actually, it should be rendered, "An angel of Jehovah found..." This angel speaks to Hagar, who was fleeing from the harsh treatment of Sarai, Abraham's wife. (Genesis 16:6) It is claimed that because in these verses, Hagar calls this "angel of Jehovah" by the name "Jehovah", that this "angel of Jehovah" is the same being as Jehovah. (Genesis 16:13) While we do not believe that any angel of Jehovah is actually Jehovah, at most what is actually written says nothing about this being Jesus, or that Jehovah is more than one person, or that he is three persons, or that Jesus is a person of Jehovah, etc. And yet is based on the assumption that the trinitarian assumptions are fact, and thus, based on this assumed "fact", the trinitarians seeks justification for that assumption throughout the scriptures, and this account of an angel of Jehovah is one of the places where they seek justification for the assumed trinitarian concept. Acttually, there is nothing here that links this "angel of Jehovah" to a supposed second person of the trinity. Nevertheless, from this it is evidently thought this is saying that Jehovah is more than one person, and that the angel of Jehovah is one of the persons of Jehovah. It is further often imaines and assumed that, based on the assumption that the first person of the imagined trinity, the God and Father of Jesus, cannot been seen, while the second person of Jehovah, Jesus, can be seen. All of this, of course, is not found in scripture, it has to be conjured up beyond what is actually stated, added to, and read into what is stated. Of course, it is true that Jesus' God is invisible, and thus cannot be seen by mankind. Any idea, however, that Jehovah had be more than one person because of this has to be imagined, assumed, added to, and read into the scriptures.
We know that Hagar did not actually see the invisible Jehovah himself, although she evidently thought she had seen Jehovah. No human can see Jehovah's mighty and invisible substance and yet live. Indeed, since he is the "invisible God", any appearance that he makes has to be in by means of some visible representation of Him.
The World English Bible translation, and some others, makes it appear that Hagar thought she had actually seen Jehovah himself, and have made it appear that Hagar was glad that she was still alive, even after having seeing God Almighty. The King James Version translates the related words like this: "Thou God seest (Strong's #7210, yar] me: for she said, Have I also here looked [Strong's #7200, har] after him that seeth [Strong's #7210] me?" This could be read as an acknowledgment by Hagar that although Jehovah had looked after her, and had seen her plight and also seen the future of her descendants, she had failed in looking after Jehovah. "She rebukes her own dullness and acknowledges God's graces, who was present with her everywhere." (Beza, Theodore. "Commentary on Genesis 16". "The 1599 Geneva Study Bible".
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What we do not find in Genesis 16:7-14, or anywhere else in the Bible, is the thought that Jehovah is more than one person. What we do not find in Genesis 16:7-14, or anywhere else in the Bible, is the thought that any angel of Jehovah is Jesus, whom Jehovah also sent. -- Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Isaiah 61:1; Matthew 10:40; Mark 9:37; Luke 4:18; 9:48; 10:16; John 3:16,17; 4:34; 5:24,30,36,37; 6:38-40,44,57; 7:16,28,29,33; 8:16,26,29,42; 9:4; 11:42; 12:44,45,49; 13:20; 14:24; 15:21; 16:5; 17:3,8,18,21,23,25; 20:21; Acts 3:13-26; Galatians 4:4; 1 John 4:9,10.
Genesis 18:1,22; 19:1,17,22,23
Genesis 18:1,22; 19:1,17,22,23 are some scriptures that are often presented to supposedly show that the three angels who visited Abraham were in fact the three persons of the alleged trinity of persons in one God. Of course, not one of these scriptures ever speaks of these three angels, also referred to as "men", as three persons of Jehovah, thus such a thought has to be read into what is said. We have discussed these scriptures more fully in the study entitled, "Abraham and the Three Angels", and so will not go into more detail in this study.
Genesis 21:17-20:
Genesis 21:17 And God heard the voice of the lad. And the Angel of God called to Hagar from the heavens, and said to her, What [aileth] thee, Hagar? Fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad there, where he is.
Genesis 21:18 Arise, take the lad, and hold him in thy hand; for I will make of him a great nation.
Genesis 21:19 And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went and filled the flask with water, and gave the lad drink.
Genesis 21:20 And God was with the lad, and he grew; and he dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer. -- Darby Translation.
Genesis 22:11 The angel of Yahweh called to him out of the sky, and said, "Abraham, Abraham!" He said, "Here I am."
Genesis 22:12 He said, "Don't lay your hand on the boy, neither do anything to him. For now I know that you fear God, seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me."
Genesis 22:13 Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and saw that behind him was a ram caught in the thicket by his horns. Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering instead of his son.
Genesis 22:14 Abraham called the name of that place Yahweh-jireh. As it is said to this day, "In Yahweh's mountain it will be provided."
Another claim some make concerning these verses is that Abraham offered the ram up to the angel as a burnt offering, thus proving that the angel of Jehovah was actually Jehovah himself, or as trinitarians claim, a "person" of Jehovah, that is Jesus in his prehuman existence. Again, nothing is said about the ram being offered to the angel, although, acting as Jehovah's representative, it would have been appropriate for the angel to receive the offering on behalf of Jehovah. This still would not make the angel of Jehovah into Jehovah himself.
15 The angel of [Jehovah] called to Abraham a second time out of the sky, 16 and said, "I have sworn by myself, says [Jehovah], because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 that in blessing I will bless you, and in multiplying I will multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is on the seashore. Your seed will possess the gate of his enemies. 18 In your seed will all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed my voice." -- World English.
Genesis 31:11,13; 32:1,24,28,30
Another episode that many refer to is in Genesis 31:11,13; 32:1,24,28,30. It is claimed that the angel with whom Jacob wrestled was in reality Jesus, and in turn, it is claimed from this that Jesus is God Almighty. At most one could read into the verses that the angel is God, or a god. There are no scriptures that link the angel with Jesus, although it is possible that it could have been.
Numbers 12:8: Ezekiel 33:11
Some point to Numbers 12:8, which reads: "with him will I speak mouth to mouth, even manifestly, and not in dark speeches; and the form of [Jehovah] shall he see: why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant, against Moses?" (World English) It is claimed that this is proof positive that the "angel of Jehovah" is Jehovah. We need to point out that this "proof positive" is based upon the assumption that Jehovah is more than one person, and the assumption that the "angel of Jehovah" is actually Jesus. Also it based on the assumption that "face to face" means that Moses actually looked upon the face of Jehovah, the Almighty Most Powerful Supreme Being of the Universe. Scripturally, we find this idea to be absurd, especially in view of the fact that Jehovah directly told Moses: "You cannot see my face, for man may not see me and live." -- Exodus 33:20.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/matthew-henry-complete/exodus/33.html
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Additionally, we can see that this is also confirmed by the statement in Geneva Study Bible notes for Exodus 33:11. There we find:
| 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Mosesd face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. |
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I've come across Exodus 23:21 and John 17:11, that's Jehovah name is in the Angel (of Jehovah) and Jehovah's name being given to Jesus, being used as a proof text that Jesus as the Word was the Angel of Jehovah / the Lord. Do you have any thoughts?
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